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Get Over Your Irrational Fear of Risk

Posted By PK    Last updated August 13th, 2012 18 Comments

“Oh, I don’t invest in stocks.  They’re too risky” said a young (urban) professional friend of mine.  Five minutes later he was reconsidering that statement, and you’ll be happy to know he’s now the proud owner of some stock (well, at least some stock mutual funds).

It’s been a crazy 5 years in the S&P 500. (Yahoo!)

What exactly happened to my friend?  Simple – a personal finance rule of thumb, in this case “stocks are risky, bonds are safe”, had somehow convinced my young friend that bonds were the place to park his not inconsiderable savings.  Of course, what that statement leaves out is something obvious – with stocks, the risk you are concerned about with is returns.  And bonds, the so called safe option?  Call it currency risk, and the risk of not having enough purchasing power when you want to retire.

Information Wants to Be Free

I’ll bet 95% of you have heard the phrase “information wants to be free”, spoken by Stewart Brand about the dropping price of disseminating information.  Maybe 2% of you know that it’s part of a larger quote which also speaks to the value of information – that information wants to be cheaper and more expensive simultaneously (think music in the late 1990s/early 2000s).  Phrases such as Mr. Brand’s tend to travel around in their most efficient means – leaving other pieces instead.  To wit?  ”Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!” was about a king who was wiped out by history.  Another?  ”To be or not to be” the beginning of Shakespeare’s most famous soliloquy in Hamlet (and overall).  It’s a speech about suicide.

My point?  Rules of thumb often leave out very important nuances which needs to be considered.  In this case, inflation risk is what is left unsaid about bonds – and it is extremely important.

Back to Bonds

So, stocks over the last 200 years or so average a return of 10.56% with a standard deviation of 18.82%.  Seems scary, huh?  67% of the time you’re bounded by a huge range of -8.26% and 29.38% (I know a normal distribution is inappropriate, but deal with it).  Well, consider the alternative… buying fixed income assets today, or ‘safe bonds?  You’ll book yourself a negative real return.

So – you tell me, young folks.  Is it more of a risk to have huge swings in the portfolio value of your stocks, especially if you’re under 30… or to essentially guarantee your savings grow slower than inflation.  You got it – take a deep breath and invest in some so-called ‘riskier’ assets.  You’re welcome.

And if you ever want to see how the stock market performed in the past, take a look at our S&P Performance Calculator.

Have your younger friends ever told you stocks (or real estate) are too risky?  Did you talk about currency risk?  How do you view risk in your portfolio?


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  • CameronDaniels

    I think the difficulty or inability in some, present company included, to define what they mean by risk leads to statements or misunderstandings like this. For many, risk means the ability for an asset to lose value, which I believe is the most shortsighted view of risk. Risk encapsulating interest rate risk, currency risk, systemic risk as well as political or tax risk may do a better job of encapsulating the meaning of the word.

    To some, the fear of losing money is what causes the greatest risk. To me, it is the inability to grow my nest egg enough to sustain myself through retirement, which includes inflation and cost of living changes such as healthcare or energy.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      The other issue is people will often say one thing but act in a completely different manner. “Oh, I don’t care about market fluctuations”. Then you find out they sold when the market dropped 5%.

      I’m all about the mechanical treatment of funds. Roughly, you should buy many more times then you sell.

  • http://www.mymoneydesign.com/ MyMoneyDesign

    I’ve had to convince more than one of my work colleagues that stock investing is the only way to stay afloat. The numbers and stats don’t lie. You just have to be able to ride out the rough patches to see the real benefit.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Funnily enough, it’s mostly the younger folks who need to learn. There’s no way a 23 year old is going to have a good time with 40 years in bonds or treasuries – I’m just trying to save people from themselves.

  • JT

    Stocks are risky if you think volatility is risk. I think that’s the real problem – volatility is not risk at all, if anything, it creates better opportunities.

    CAPM can shove it.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Oh, but the efficient frontier!

      I agree. CAPM is bunk. Hopefully people keep practicing it though and don’t crowd out my opportunities, haha.

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  • http://twitter.com/seedebtrun See Debt Run

    Someone jumping into the market blind without any information, can be blindsided by the ebbs and flows of the market.. It can be staggering..

    I would agree that stock investing is risky.. *IF* you don’t take the time to do your homework properly..

    -jefferson

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      I wouldn’t touch one myself, but I’ve become a fan of these so-called ‘target date’ funds. Full diversification, and generally a bunch of ‘risky’ assets appropriate for your age group in a tindy little package. I don’t think anyone is going to get rich off a target date fund, but for, say a summe rintern just getting started, it’s a solid place to dump funds until a true education can be sought out.

      And if they don’t? Better than the return on treasuries over the course of a career, I bet!

  • ProfitsOn

    There is a risk of
    loss in any kind of investment.

    In order to make the
    right decisions, personal and market awareness are important.

    Stocks have shown the
    tendency to trend for 18/23 years and to move laterally for 13/17 years.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      There is – it’s just I worry about people who conflate ‘risk of loss’ with ‘avoid stocks’. You can either maybe lose money in stocks or something risky like real estate, or you can definitely lose money to inflation (and taxes!) with low paying savings accounts. Rock and a hard place!

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  • sully

    risk? im sorry my friend… board games dont scare me!!!!

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      How about Life?

      Write us an article – you do have a byline on the site, you know.

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