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How Much Privacy Would You Give Up to Save Money?

Posted By PK    Last updated March 14th, 2013 17 Comments
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Would you install GPS to save on your insurance?

Our friend JT at Money Mamba recently had an interesting article reviewing the implications of Google’s new driverless car.  An interesting piece of technology, the driverless car has logged (as reported in August) 300,000 miles and counting.  What do you get for $150,000 in equipment, hundreds of thousands of miles, probably a million lines of code and at least a dozen cars on the road?  Only two accidents – neither one the fault of the Google system.

A Brave New World

If JT was covering the ultimate signing over of control, this article is more concerned with some of the smaller steps.  Follow me through some reasoning here:

  1. Technology, especially hardware, decreases rapidly in price
  2. Cheap technology is ubiquitous
  3. Even cheap technology is accurate enough to yield useful insights

From cell phones to GPS, the technology we have now was crude or just a pipe dream for militaries and governments (and consumers) a few decades ago.  The proliferation of cheap hardware (and cheap clock cycles allowing more software) has led to a massive increase in the amount of data that people create and store.

Back to GPS for a second – for the uninitiated, GPS is a technology which uses four (or more) satellites to figure out the position of a receiver.  Since the speed of light is known, taking the timestamps of those transmissions means the receiver can figure out where it is located, to an accuracy of around +/- 16 feet with a clear view of the sky.  Such accurate technology combined with cheap hardware means more than dash mounted GPS units and GPS units in your phone – it has also led to new applications of GPS technology.  From law enforcement tracking to building cases for divorce, GPS is a great example of technology deflation leading to new, interesting uses.

The Abundance of Cheap Sensors

It’s not just GPS – it’s all sorts of cheap sensors…  Go to eBay and search any type of sensor – “current sensor”, “water flow sensor”, “accelerometer”, “sound sensor”.  You can get pretty much any sensor for around $10-$20, and pair it up with a simple brain like a microcontroller (such as in this frequency reactive light project we made) and build amazing technology at a workbench.

The commercial implications of cheap sensors are staggering as well – here in California, our utility has a smart meter program which can provide real time usage information back to the grid – and reports it online.  We’ve seen it on a few car insurance commercials, but reading the most recent magazine (PDF) installment on the Lloyds of London insurance news website, we were impressed with the growing sophistication of vehicle telematics – technology which (for now, opt in) allows your insurance company to see and infer things about your insurability based on sensors reporting on your driving.  Sensors even can touch your life (or keep you safe) when you’re stopped – many states have required people convicted of drunk driving to install ignition locks and breathalyzers in their vehicles.

How Much Would You Give Up?

The question in this explosion of data boils down to what you’re willing to give up to receive better service or offers, or receive discounts on necessary purchases.  Many of us give up tons of online information… for free… in social profiles like on Facebook and LinkedIn (hey, like our Facebook page!).  We install smart meters in our homes, and even sometimes install smart thermostats which turn down our A/Cs under peak conditions.  We install water and gas flow sensors, driving sensors, and let our TVs track what we watch.  We opt into shopping rewards programs despite the reams of data we’re creating on ourselves.

So, readers, how does it all strike you?  Is this a case of opt in overload?  Do you feel it differs from surveillance?  How far will you go to save a dollar?  Have you opted out of anything?

Portions of this article promoted by Lloyd’s.


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  • krantcents

    Surveillance is not the issue as much as what do I receive for giving up some privacy. If the monitoring of my driving will yield a $500-1,000 savings per year, why not?

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Absolutely – but let’s just say I’m glad it’s an opt in. I bet, at some level, as it becomes more accepted, just saying you won’t participate will give you a black mark though, haha.

  • Hey

    Privacy is overrated. Why do I need privacy? How does privacy (with the exception of people not seeing my naked) actually benefit me?

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      I’d vote that the most important reason is to protect you from discrimination. Second is to ensure you don’t self-moderate your speech just because you hold potentially controversial ideas.

      Think about political life in the colonies – pen names and pseudonyms were important ways the colonists penned screeds against England without drawing too much heat.

  • http://www.myfijourney.com/ My FI Journey

    I take these things on a case by case basis. I don’t really care if Facebook has my personal data. What will they do with it? Probably just more ads for stuff I don’t want. Maybe they will finally feature ads for stuff I do want, but didn’t know about. That would be nice.

    But for some reason I don’t really trust insurance companies not to find some reason to jack up my rates. If not now, then in the future.

    And I would never let the power company control my AC. I don’t mind parting with information, but control is a different beast entirely.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      I’m also not opted into the AC program, heh. I do have a programmable t-stat, but I prefer me programming it, as dumb as that sounds. I don’t want the ability for someone else’s dumb mistake to kill my dog, heh.

  • freeby50

    I take it case by case. I generally don’t mind at all if websites track me some and offer me ads about the stuff I appear to be interested in. I wouldn’t mind a GPS tracker on my car for cheap car insurance. I’m generally not too worried about privacy myself. I don’t think big companies care what I do minute to minute nor would they gain anything by watching my relatively boring life. Plus I don’t think I’ve got anything to hide since I don’t do anything illegal. I’m not really interested in having my life broadcast 24/7 on a dedicated TV channel… well actually depends on how much theyd pay.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Let’s say, theoretically, that the GPS program wasn’t just a rate reducer – but it also could increase your rate. Without context, would you trust the program still? What if you had to avoid an accident and the ‘swerve’ jacked your rates?

      Theoretical, sure, but a similar set of considerations go into the hatred for red light cameras. A police officer watching an intersection knows when someone skips a light for safety reasons, like to avoid being rear ended. A traffic camera doesn’t know how to make that judgement. Hence, greater rear ending rates once cameras go up.

      • freeby50

        It depends. I might sign up for a system that charged me directly based on driving both good and bad. Like 94% of Americans, I truely believe that I’m a significantly better than average driver. So because I’m such a great driver I might think I’ll come out ahead in such an equation. However what I suspect would happen is that the insurance companies will stick to an incentive only system. Nobody has penalties for insurance really, we all just have discounts. They’ll just assume we’re all awful drivers then give us a discount if we aren’t. That way everyone thinks they’re winning due to getting discounts and no penalties. Thats what progressive does with their tracker deal. (Note theirs is just speed and driving habits not really GPS. )

        I’m in favor of traffic cameras. Theres plenty of studies that show they reduce accidents and fatalities. I’m not sure why people hate them so much. I mean I assume the negative reaction isn’t because people dislike getting caught running red lights. I don’t know why people dislike the idea. Maybe its the ‘big brother’ camera watchcing them feeling that it gives? Maybe they think its ‘unfair’ that a automated camera catches people breaking the law? I don’t get it honestly.

  • Joe

    As long as I have control over the degree I choose to sacrifice privacy. I was a fairly early adopter of Facebook back in January 06. I finally got rid of my original account in January 2012, after getting fed up with the constant changing of privacy terms (where suddenly a bunch of stuff would get made public). There just wasn’t informed consent. As for the Google car, I’ve been harping about it ever since they made the project public. I love it. I can’t wait. As soon as it’s affordable (i.e. a few extra grand on a new car) I will get it. Eventually when everybody else has one, there will be far fewer accidents and traffic jams on the QEW. Then I will commute to work by car; this will be a considerable UPGRADE in privacy compared to the GO Train, regardless of who knows the travel habits of my car.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      I still have a Facebook, but many of my colleagues have pared theirs back, changed their names to avoid searches, or just dropped. I remember when the only thing younger coworkers worried about was de-tagging out the alcohol pictures – it’s a lot different now, haha.

      • Joe

        And on that note… the best thing about Facebook back in 06 was going to a party or hanging out with people and seeing yourself tagged with your friends the next day. Whenever it suddenly became a career danger, which killed the feature for a lot of average intelligent folks, was a sad day. Mostly because the world is so up tight that a job searcher can’t afford to have a picture of himself or herself drinking legally (and in Canada that’s at 19) and having fun with peers floating around in cyberspace. Come on. Do employers want uptight anti-social drones? Oh, I think I just answered my own question.

        • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

          It’s especially funny the first time you experience a work happy hour. It seems the things people worry about HR seeing are not the same they worry about their actual team seeing!

  • http://www.thadthoughts.com/ Thad Puckett

    Having the ability to make conscious choices to opt-in to certain programs in exchange for lowering insurance costs seems like a no-brainer. However, if you think that data mining doesn’t enable companies to know immense amounts of information about you? You’re kidding yourself.

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