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Stop Buying Dividend Stocks!

Posted By PK    Last updated September 4th, 2012 20 Comments

Subtitle: Until You Read This Article.

I’m not one for hyperbole… I’m more of a “here’s the data, deal with it” person, but I’ll make a vast blanket statement for you today.  You see, you may not care too much either way about the whole ‘fiscal cliff‘ scenario, where an expiration of the so-called Bush Tax Cuts of 2001 and 2003 would reset rates to their previous levels.  Perhaps you make under $200,000 as a single or $250,000 as a couple, so if the cuts expire and President Obama extends them for your income bracket in a second term you wouldn’t worry too much.  Fine – I won’t spend this article discussing what the appropriate level of taxation is for the many strata of incomes earned in this country.  However, I do want to draw your attention to one insidious effect of rolling back the 2001/3 cuts – namely, how the code characterizes dividends.

Capital Gains and Dividends

A picture of pennies on top of a stock sheet.

Think the Fiscal Cliff Doesn’t Affect You? Uh… Think Again.

It won’t shock many of you who worry about the arcana of tax law to find that dividends are already about the worst form of redistributing profit to shareholders.  Say what you will about the timing of share repurchasing plans but a simple truth remains – for tax purposes, they are better than dividends.

Dividends are a double tax.  First, a company is taxed on the profit it makes, and only from the remainder can the dividends be paid.  Second, the investor is taxed on the dividend – either at the qualified rate, or for certain situations at a higher rate (generally for short term holdings).  In some scenarios, that money is taxed a third time – either at the point of sale of some good or service in the form of a sales tax, or upon death in an estate tax.  (I call it double taxation because the third scenario doesn’t always apply).

Now, enter the fiscal cliff scenario.  Today, the top dividend tax rate is 15%, while the top corporate rate is 35%.  Add in state tax rates on personal and corporate income, and it’s already possible for dividend money to be taxed north of 50%.  However, seeing for myself the obsession with ‘passive income‘ around the internet, let’s look at the maximal rate for dividends under a fiscal cliff scenario:

For a person earning $200,001 and up or a couple earning $250,001 and up in 2013:

(100% – 35% Corporate Tax Rate + x% State Corporate Tax Rate – d1 (deductions due to state tax))

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(39.6% new top tax rate + 3.8% levy due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act) + Individual State Taxes – d2 (individual deductions due to state tax)= 65% untaxed profits – 43.4% top individual federal rate = 36.79% profits retained

63.21%  taxes + net state taxes after deductions (individual and corporate)

Why so high?  I told you above that capital gains and dividends are treated the same – that’s only been the case since 2003.  If that law is retired, dividends will be taxed at the highest personal rate.

So, How Does it Affect Me?

Elementary, dear reader: you may not care too much if high earners have to pay more money on dividend stocks, but they certainly do.  The effects are doubled, too – since many of those company owners happen to be high earners, they understand that any money they pay as dividends is sure to make its way back to their own shares – that 63% or more will go into the pockets of governments at various levels.  That wouldn’t matter much except the those high income earners tend to hold a lot of stock – enough to move markets, easily.

So, what am I saying?  You might be chasing yield on the deck of the Titanic as high earning investors rearrange their stock purchases as 2012 draws to a close.  You see, it was the case before that two stocks gaining 10% – one with capital gains and one with all dividends – were worth the same to an investor.  Now?  Not so much – at the Federal level, you’re talking 23.8% federal taxes on the former and a massive 43.4% on the latter.

Your dividend stocks still might be a great deal – but don’t get crushed if there is a mad dash to the exit.

Caveat Emptor.

Did you know that the characterization of dividend income was changing?  Do you purchase lots of dividend paying stocks?  Will you be changing your portfolio composition near the end of the year… or now?

 


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  • William_Drop_Dead_Money

    Excellent explanation! And true. Unless of course, the rich people have lobbyists on K Street to prevent this law change. Do they have lobbyists? Is the Pope Catholic?

    Fortunately, I own my stocks in IRAs, where the tax implication doesn’t matter. But this definitely impacts my buy/sell decisions. The dividend stocks I’ve been following haven’t shown this selling off yet, but I guess there are still a few months left.

    Have you thought about publishing this article on Seeking Alpha? I’m sure it will have a great reception there.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Oh, they’ve got lobbyists. I’m just looking at the default scenario, the ‘most likely to happen if nothing changes’ type deal.

      That’s why I worry about dividend stocks anywhere. Going to zero? No way – but a rich person is going to think twice about owning dividend stocks in a taxable account, which will affect your account balance whether you sell your stocks or not.

      I’ve thought about Seeking Alpha, but haven’t taken the plunge yet… some of the comments there might drive even ‘supposedly calm me’ a bit crazy. Thanks for your comment!

  • http://dumbpassiveincome.com/ Matthew Allen

    What’s with that bold comment in there about passive income? Haha. I admit, I am one of the obsessed. Fortunately for me, dividend stocks have not been and will not be on my radar as a source of passive income. I am concentrating on methods where I have more control.

    Great explanation on the new tax rates. Unfortunately, most average investors probably won’t realize the effects until they get hit.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Haha, you wanted a link-back?

      I just worry about the current drive for yield. ‘Passive Income’ is great, but when the whole herd moves toward the same point, resources become scarce. Maybe I’m just happy with my active, day job income (and unrealized capital gains!)?

  • Jacq

    No, but then I’m Canadian. :-)
    Seriously though, I hold my highest dividend payers in my tax-sheltered accounts.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Haha. Do you buy Canadian or American stocks?

  • JT

    I like to buy previously high-yielding stocks after they cut their dividends, so this looks like a new feast to be had in every corner of the market. Awesome!

    This could be a pretty big deal. Given that risk-free rates have only declined since 2010, I would guess that the FRB’s data on stock ownership is probably too low. It seems to me that dividend stocks are becoming the new bonds in retirement circles.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      What do you think – will there be a whole new set of dividends getting cut if the tax rise becomes imminent?

      I’ll go bottom fishing then!

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  • Dominique Brown

    I don’t buy many dividend producing stocks. I’m mainly focused on growth stocks or small caps. The “dividends” come in the form of rental real estate investing. At least I get to write off gains against my passive actively losses before getting burned by taxes.

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      And 1031 your way to Nirvana? I love Real Estate (disclaimer: local market matters!) nowadays.

  • 101 Centavos

    Most of… no, scratch that, *all* of my dividend-paying stocks or trusts are in my tax-shelter accounts. So there…

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      Fair enough – so you’ve got your own personal tax rate covered.

      I’m worried more about the effect on the price of stock when people who aren’t as well prepared as you start to pull out. As I argued, I’m thinking that the effect on rich people who hold dividend stocks in taxable brokerages, combined with rich people operating under new onerous tax laws that own/run these companies – that will affect the price level of dividend stocks.

      So, maybe that’s not the case and your dividends will be safe. What about your capital gains?

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  • Shawn James

    Dividend Stocks is listed in my investment portfolio but I invested only 20% of my total investment. So, I am not much worry about it. “Dividends are a double tax. First, a company is taxed on the profit it makes, and only from the remainder can the dividends be paid. Second, the investor is taxed on the dividend”. I never thought about it even not have any info regarding this. Thanks PK.

  • Sustainable PF

    Up here in Canada dividends see a much more friendly tax structure than do other forms of income. And we sure do pay a lot of taxes …

    • http://www.dqydj.net/ PK

      So I’ve heard!

      I feel your pain, for the most part – until I bought a house (well, and got married…), taxes were my largest monthly expense by a long shot. Now that I’ve got the house it’s close, but taxes are number 2.

      Unfortunately, I know you have to get into complicated maneuvers in Canada to pull off the same thing – but here in California it lessens the blow a bit (we can also write off property and state income taxes from our Federal taxes).

  • http://www.isol.co.in/ IntegratedS

    Announcement of Canadian dividend stocks is great news for money seekers. I am also waiting for this news. Thanks for this information.

    Best
    Dividend Stocks

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